Okay so I’ve worked with Joomla for the past week or so and I have to say my immediate reaction was very unfair to Joomla. I’ve now made my own template and started putting together a website and it’s coming together nicely. I think what got me was the terminology of Joomla. When you’re talking about articles and catagories and everything just feels like it’s supposed to be a blog. but when I took a step back and realized that articles linked to menus just make new pages and catagories are basically used for organization and I’ve made my own theme that works the way I actually need it to work….. it all feels much better and I’m very happy with it. So basically thanks ronaldroe for kinda talking me into not giving up on joomla too soon.